more ignorant bigotry on immigration...

yet another forward started by an elitist, bigoted nativist copied from a letter sent to bill frist. ironically entitled common sense...which apparently no longer has any basis in history, rationality, or information. complete with my response in brackets...

the letter begins...

Dear Senator Frist:

There is a huge amount of propaganda and myths circulating about illegal
aliens, particularly illegal Mexican, Salvadorian, Guatemalan and Honduran aliens.

[translation..."i am about to throw some rascist propaganda your way.."]

#1.
Illegal aliens generally do NOT want U.S. citizenship. Americans are very vain thinking that everybody in the world wants to be a U.S. citizen.

Mexicans, and other nationalities want to remain citizens of their home countries while obtaining the benefits offered by the United States such as employment, medical care, in-state tuition, government subsidized housing, and free education for their offspring. Their main attraction is employment and their loyalty usually remains at home. They want benefits earned and subsidized by middle class Americans. What illegal aliens want are benefits of American residence without paying the price

[americans are also very vain in thinking they are a chosen people.

yes, the main attraction is employment and the promise of opportunity (albeit a false promise that has been scoured by elitist economics and an overemphasis on capital). that is why people come here. but the funny thing is, they tend to stay, and by the second or third generation they are "integrated" into american society. despite the problems and the raping of american ideals over the years, people do want to come here, and they are thankful for the hope that it brings.

i wonder if the writer of this ever lived anywhere with a large hispanic population. and i doubt it, because he/she would have immediately left the neighborhood as they feared their property values would be hurt and the influx of darker skinned folks would bring crime and drugs.]

#2.
There are no jobs that Americans won't do. Illegal aliens are doing jobs that Americans can't take and still support their families. Illegal aliens take low wage jobs, live dozens in a single residence home, share expenses and send money to their home country. There are no jobs that Americans won't do for a decent wage.

[it's funny, they like to talk about these people coming in and getting all the "benefits" of being here, yet then proceed to say it is impossible to support oneself and one's family on the wages these people are paid. our obsession with the bottom line, capital, and "globalization" (which has always historically been the last chance grab of a dying world empire to hold onto it's glory days...and has never worked) means that americans would not do these jobs ever, decent wage or no. instead of paying a decent wage, we will insist our companies make more profits, and these jobs would move overseas.

this argument just points out how badly these people do want to be here. despite having no protection, no job security, no wages...they come. and we encourage it, and have encouraged it for decades.]

#3.
Every person who illegally entered this nation left a home. They are NOT homeless and they are NOT Americans. Some left jobs in their home countries. They come to send money to their real home as evidenced by the more than $20 billion sent out of the country each year by illegal aliens. These illegal aliens knowingly and willfully entered this nation in violation of the law and, therefore, assumed the risk of detection and deportation. Those who brought their alien children assumed the responsibility and risk on behalf of their children.

[american policies encouraged the massive movement of people. only now it is popular again to be a "know-nothing" and "nativist"...the same philosophies that were exposed as misguided time and time again in our nations history, most notably by abraham lincoln himself.

"assumed the risk on behalf of their children"...to those of you that don't know bigot-speak, what he means is..."let these kids get sick and die and remain uneducated so they are pushed into criminal activity rather than becoming productive members of our society. they should've stopped their parents."]

#4.
Illegal aliens are NOT critical to the economy. Illegal aliens constitute less than 5% of the workforce. However, they reduce wages and benefits for lawful U.S. residents.

[tell me this when you can't afford a middle-class lifestyle anymore because the cost of living skyrockets. not that many can afford it anymore anyways, thanks to the dismantling of a manufacturing infrastructure and obsession with the stock market.]

#5.
This is NOT an immigrant nation. There are 280 million native born Americans. While it is true that this nation was settled and founded by immigrants (legal immigrants), it is also true that there is not a nation on this planet that was not settled by immigrants at one time or another.

[280 million native born americans...i am sure the american indian will be glad to know he has survived in such massive numbers. apparently the genocide committed by european immigrants to this continent didn't happen. and never mind the native born children of illegals. perhaps you should tell this to the german midwest, the old english northeast, the spanish and mexican southwest, the asian pacific coast, the african cotton belt (oh, but they weren't really immigrants so much as slaves). but no, this isn't a nation of immigrants...not at all. i'm sorry, but this argument is just assinine, ignorant and devoid of any support. i am embarrassed by it.]

#6.
The United States is welcoming to legal immigrants. Illegal aliens are not immigrants by definition. The U.S. accepts more lawful immigrants every year than the rest of the world combined.

[the united states actually is not very welcoming to legal immigrants. unless of course you can show that you will reside within the upper classes. otherwise, expect a good 10 to 20 years to get your citizenship]

#7
There is no such thing as the "Hispanic vote". Hispanics are white, brown, black and every shade in between. Hispanics are Republicans, Democrats, Anarchists, Communists, Marxists and Independents The so-called "Hispanic vote" is a myth. Pandering to illegal aliens to get the Hispanic vote is a dead end.

[but there is the bigoted-hellfire-evangelical vote. and they love it when you dump on foreigners and non-whites.]

#8.
Mexico is NOT a friend of the United States. Since 1848 Mexicans have
resented the United States. During World War I, Mexico allowed German Spies to operate freely in Mexico to spy on the U.S. During World War II, Mexico allowed the Axis powers to spy on the U.S. from Mexico. During the Cold War, Mexico allowed spies hostile to the U.S. to operate freely. The attack on the Twin Towers in 2001 was cheered and applauded all across Mexico. Today, Mexican school children are taught that the U.S. stole California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. If you don't believe it, checkout some Mexican textbooks written for their schoolchildren.

[interesting how this one forgets to mention that in 1848 we launched an imperial war against mexico and for decades afterwards talked of taking the rest. i wonder if the mexican textbooks quote abraham lincoln and most of the original founders of the republican party who were horrified at the illegal war launched against mexico. i just ask because the textbooks here forget that part. not to mention our economic imperialism has kept mexico in it's depressed state.

so mexico thought of teaming with the germans, who we consider an ally now, who was teamed with the italians, another ally, who were all teamed with the japanese...not so much an ally as an american satellite. oh, and the japanese bombed pearl harbor. really, if you are going to talk about WWII alliances, know your history because everyone on the other side became an ally, and our most important ally became the "evil empire" of the soviet union.

besides, we really do not want to get into what some countries have tried to do to other countries...if it is really looked into, the united states might actually learn why the rest of the world isn't a big fan.]

#9.
Although some illegal aliens enter this country for a better life, there are 6 billion people on this planet. At least 1 billion of those live on less than one dollar a day. If wanting a better life is a valid excuse to break the law and sneak into America, then let's allow those one billion to come to America and we'll turn the USA into a Third World nation overnight. Besides, there are 280 million native born Americans who want a better life. I'll bet Bill Gates and Donald Trump want a better life. When will the USA lifeboat be full? Since when is wanting a better life a good reason to break the law and trash another nation?

[when did american's become so self-important as to believe that all were not entitled to a shot at a better life? those 1 billion that live on less than a dollar a day largely due so as a result of our economic empire and fiscal policies of arms of our government mascarading as multinational organizations.

as for "trashing" this country, i am sure some will be amazed to know that illegals are actually far less likely to be involved in violent crime and drug crime than are "native born" americans. they also tend to have much closer-knit communities that more closely resemble those that originally spawned this nation than the individualistic give-me-mine neighborhoods the rest of us reside in.

and actually, bill gates probably thinks you are a moron and a bigot for wanting to deny so many the opportunity that this country pretends to offer.]

#10.
There is a labor shortage in this country? This is a lie. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of American housewives, senior citizens, students, unemployed and underemployed who would gladly take jobs at a decent wage.

[again, before you complain about jobs going to illegals due to the low pay they will accept, look at the things around your house and ask yourself how many of those items you purchased at low prices because the labor was ridiculously cheap.]

#11.
It is racist to want secure borders? What is racist about wanting secure borders and a secure America? What is racist about not wanting people to sneak into America and steal benefits we have set aside for legal aliens, senior citizens, children and other legal residents? What is it about race that entitles people to violate our laws, steal identities, and take the American Dream without paying the price?

[jim crow laws were necessary to "secure" the south from the horrors of an animalistic and ignorant black...leave it to the rascist to be the first to claim he is not. need i remind you his letter began by specifically noting his complaints were directed at people from a select few latin american countries, none of which have ever been an even joke of a threat to american security.

notice there is no talk of a wall on the canadian border, actually the larger of the two...also easier to cross. and if you are talking "security"...a foreigner coming in through canada raises less red flegs because of the large immigrant community in canada than it would along the mexican border, where brown skin or an accent from outside the southwest will get you searched. i would have much more respect for you if you admitted that you really just don't want mexicans here.

and have you "paid the price" for the american dream? when was the last time you risked your life by crossing a barren wasteland to get to a job that will pay you $2.00 a day whilst you have to live in the shadows lest you be throw in prison?]

For about four decades American politicians have refused to secure our borders and look after the welfare of middle class Americans. These politicians have been of both parties. A huge debt to American society has resulted. This debt will be satisfied and the interest will be high. There has already been riots in the streets by illegal aliens and their supporters. There will be more. You, as a politician, have a choice to offend the illegal aliens who have stolen into this country and demanded the rights afforded to U.S. citizens or to offend those of us who are stakeholders in this country. The interest will be steep either way.

There will be civil unrest. There will be a reckoning. Do you have the courage to do what is right for America? Or, will you bow to the wants and needs of those who don't even have the right to remain here? There will be a reckoning. It will come in November of this year, again in 2008 and yet again in 2010. We will not allow America to be stolen by third world agitators and thieves.

["...because as good christian soldiers we have stolen this country in the name of god and we never really were good at sharing."

i am wondering where these riots by illegal aliens occurred? was it during the marches of hundreds of thousands that ended remarkably peaceably? was that the sign of them "stealing" this country? because us western european immigrants didn't steal this country under the guise of "god's will" and manifest destiny. the war of 1812, the indian wars, the mexican-american war, the spanish-american war...and there is no further room for any other agitators, our intelligence and military community kind of has a monopoly on that now, and has for the last 60 years...but then i suppose asking someone to realize the history of their own country is too much. all we need to know as americans is that we are ordained by god.]

David J. Stoddard
U.S. Border Patrol (RET)
Hereford, Arizona

"Learn as if you were going to live forever. Live as if you were going to die tomorrow." - Mahatma Gandhi

[this might be my favorite...this asshead quotes gandhi. nothing else needs be said about that.]

so this is freedom? they must be joking.